Every Rom Com 44: Groundhog Day

This week on Every Rom Com we’re covering the foundational movie of the time loop genre - “Groundhog Day”! You’ll definitely learn something new, as we discuss everything from its filming location, to the story behind the script, to the history of Groundhog Day itself. We also delve into time loop ethics, pitch perhaps our wildest sequel idea yet, and proffer intriguing theories about Ned Ryerson. And of course we cover the romance of it all, though the most romantic part of this episode might be how Steve from “For Me These Films R The Juice” would choose to spend his time loop! Don’t miss this fact and fun-filled episode on an essential film! 

0:00-12:22 - Intro, Monadnock Underground Updates From Zoe, Introducing Steve Doyle From The Podcast “For Me These Films R The Juice”! 

To Check Out Monadnock Underground And/Or Submit: https://www.monadnockunderground.com/ 

To Check Out “For Me These Films R The Juice”: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/for-me-these-films-r-the-juice/id1592377993 

You can also follow Steve and the podcast on Twitter @FilmsRtheJuice, on Instagram @thesefilmsrthejuice, and on his Facebook page: For me, these Films R the Juice

Guest Bio: Steve Doyle From “For Me These Films R The Juice”:

Steve Doyle has been podcasting since October 2021. The inspiration to begin For me, these Films R the Juice came from listening to The Rewatchables and The Cine-Files podcasts and also returning to the cinema after the Covid lockdowns. These things reignited Steve’s passion for film and made him think, 'I’m going to give that a try.' The first 7 episodes of For me, these Films R the Juice are solo efforts by Steve, focusing on deep dives into some of his favourite and most seen films such as Pulp Fiction, Shaun of the Dead & No Country For Old Men. Episode 8 onwards features a guest with whom he discusses a film or film topic including a Tom Cruise Film Draft with Edward from That 80s Movie Podcast and Wayne from Recasted 2.0.

Steve was a big cinephile from his mid teens to early twenties. During this period he started to gain a deeper knowledge of and appreciation for film acting, film making and film history by taking an A-Level in Film Studies and subscribing to Empire Magazine. These two avenues, along with sharing the same passion for film with two of his best friends, made Steve become fascinated by certain actors (Robert DeNiro, Al Pacino, Ed Norton, Ray Liotta) directors (Quentin Tarantino, Martin Scorsese, Francis Ford Coppolla, Oliver Stone) and film history (the book ‘Easy Riders, Raging Bulls’, Film Documentaries and DVD ‘Making Ofs’). Episode 9 of the podcast in which Steve is joined by the close friends mentioned, Dan and Dean, to compare Al Pacino and Robert De Niro really conveys their joint love of film at that time. 

Outside of podcasting Steve has recently started a new job within his local hospital’s Cancer Support department which he is enjoying and finding very rewarding. Other than work, podcasting, watching films, and getting to his local driving range whenever he can, Steve enjoys spending time with his wife and two children as much as possible. 

12:22-23:24 TRAILER, Basic Info, Interesting Facts

https://www.vulture.com/2017/03/danny-rubin-groundhog-day-musical.html 

https://playbill.com/article/groundhog-day-plays-final-broadway-performance-september-17 

https://www.slashfilm.com/639738/why-groundhog-day-left-harold-ramis-and-bill-murrays-friendship-in-shambles/ 

https://etcanada.com/photos/295665/some-things-you-probably-didnt-know-about-groundhog-day/#image-741841 

https://www.vulture.com/2018/06/how-harold-ramis-and-bill-murray-ended-their-feud.html 

23:24-30:17 General Opinion

30:17-37:54 Cast & Crew In-Depth

Link to screenwriter Danny Rubin’s blog: http://dannyrubin.com/blogusgroundhogus/  

For information on Bill Murray check out Every Rom Com Episode 13 on “Lost in Translation”: https://www.everyromcom.com/podcast-1/episode/5dbd0d79/every-rom-com-13-lost-in-translation 

37:54-56:43 Before The Time Loop; Woodstock, Illinois And “Groundhog Days”; Pre-Loop Groundhog Day; Stephen Tobolowsky As Ned; The History And Traditions Of Groundhog Day

Information On Filming Location, Woodstock, Illinois And The “Groundhog Days” Festival: https://www.woodstockil.gov/community/page/groundhog-days 

https://www.woodstockgroundhog.org/ 

Possibly More Information Than You Ever Wanted On Groundhog Day,The Holiday:

https://www.history.com/news/groundhog-day-history-and-facts 

https://www.groundhog.org/ 

https://www.roadsideamerica.com/story/17332 

https://www.npr.org/2022/02/02/1077567589/groundhog-day-punxsutawney-phil-shadow-staten-island-chuck 

https://time.com/3685895/groundhog-day-history/  

That Scientific Study On Groundhog Weather Prediction Accuracy:

http://ceelab.ca/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/2021-Ross-et-al-WCS.pdf 

56:43-1:14:43 Loop 1, Loop 2, What Day Would You Choose If You Had To Be Stuck In A Time Loop? 

1:14:43-1:30:16 Loop 3 And Beyond, Nancy Taylor And Other Diversions, What Would You Do If You Were Stuck In A Time Loop?

They Lay of the Last Minstrel by Sir Walter Scott: https://www.theotherpages.org/poems/canto06.html 

1:30:16-1:42:25 Phil Starts Pursuing Rita

1:42:25 SPOILERS BEGIN

1:42:25-1:55:08 Phil Gets Depressed, Kidnapping The Groundhog, Phil’s Suicide Attempts, Phil’s Turning Point

1:55:08-2:08:42 Phil’s Last Loop, Why Does The Loop End?

2:08:42-2:17:04 How Many Loops Were There?, What Are The Implications Of Time Loops For Those Not In The Loop?, Do Time Loops Create A Multiverse?

Great, Almost Definitive Article On How Many Time Loops In “Groundhog Day”:

https://mashable.com/article/how-long-phil-connors-stuck-in-groundhog-day-time-loop 

2:17:04-2:29:50 Double Feature Recommendations

We’ve covered two of our double feature recommendations previously on the show:

Happy Death Day Episode 22: https://www.everyromcom.com/podcast-1/episode/78fc04f6/every-rom-com-22-happy-death-day 

Lost in Translation, Episode 13: https://www.everyromcom.com/podcast-1/episode/5dbd0d79/every-rom-com-13-lost-in-translation